Both sold like not working for parts only! Watch - balance staff is OK, but hair spring is not good , same with the movement. SOLD AS IS! Case size without the crown approx - 27,8mm. Lugs - 14,5mm. Hello there I list new watches and parts almost every day week don't forget to follow my store. BEFORE BIDDING BE SURE THAT YOU WANT THE WATCH HAPPY BIDDING
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